Manisha Krishnan, WIRED's senior culture editor, interviews Gowanus on The Big Interview podcast about rejecting Big Tech and modern dating apps. Gowanus discusses the importance of going outside and living a more traditional life. The conversation explores themes of rejection and technology's impact on society.

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Source: https://www.wired.com/story/the-big-interview-podcast-summer-of-ludd-gowanus/